Commons:Deletion requests/File:Battle of Diu 1509.jpg
File:Battle of Diu 1509.jpg[edit]
Apparently modern painting of unknown provenance, very likely recent enough to be copyrighted, mistakenly tagged as a 16th-century PD-old work. On stylistic grounds, this is most definitely not 16th century. It's a pastiche and almost certainly not older than the late 19th century at the earliest, quite probably 20th century. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:04, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Delete - I believe this is most probably artwork by Com. Álvaro Hogan (d. 1952), very active in the early 20th century, till the 1940s, as a Marine illustrator. Compare the style. Still in copyright, in that case.-- Darwin Ahoy! 14:26, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
File:Battle of Diu 1509.jpg[edit]
Modern painting of unknown topic, provenance and authorship. Was previously deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/File:Battle of Diu 1509.jpg, now undeleted on the assumption that it may "probably" be the work of some artist who died in 1952. However, we still have no source for this attribution. We also have no source for its title or purported subject. The only source back when it was uploaded was some web forum, which is now a dead link; all other instances on the web seem to be Wikipedia-derived. Even if we could legitimately assume that it's PD, it's still useless in the absence of properly sourced attribution, and even if we knew that it was meant to depict that specific battle, it would still be a very poor historical representation of it; plus, it's quite a low-quality rendering of an artistically low-quality work. Hence no conceivable educational use. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:13, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- You may be right that there are valid grounds for deletion, but if you can't conceive of any educational use, I find that surprising. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:30, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, of course, if we don't know what it is, there's no possible legitimate use for it. And it's certainly not a factually accurate depiction of the battle it's alleged to illustrate (for one thing, that battle took place inside a sheltered harbour area, not in the kind of open-ocean stormy waves depicted here). Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:33, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- I could easily imagine a blog post about this battle, with this image showing how you should be careful not to rely on paintings for accurate historical depictions. That has an educational value in itself. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:49, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete attribution too uncertain. --GrandEscogriffe (talk) 23:39, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 18:55, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
