Provincia Britannia Latest Topicshttps://www.unrv.com/forum/forum/63-provincia-britannia/Provincia Britannia Latest TopicsenStudy Discussion Regarding the sources on Caledoniahttps://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/19941-study-discussion-regarding-the-sources-on-caledonia/ I am planning an essay on the Roman Governors of Britain, and have come to a dilemma in my reasoning. Would the Romans have classed the Caledonians as "Britons"? If not, then my use of the Scriptores Historiae Augustae will be undermined... I am assuming they would have done, but at the point I'm assessing (100AD-ish) it is possible the Caledonians were beyond the boundary of what was considered the Roman Empire. What does everyone think?

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19941Sun, 28 May 2023 15:12:08 +0000
How are the Ancient Romans viewed in Great Britain today?https://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/9614-how-are-the-ancient-romans-viewed-in-great-britain-today/I think most all of us who read and contribute to this site are Romanophiles. Despite its many faults, we agree that Ancient Rome contributed in a positive way to modern society.

 

Today, however, many academicians have re-assessed this positive view of Ancient Rome, as well as of others once admired in the Western tradition.

 

Here in the United States, for example, Christopher Columbus is no longer uniformly seen as a brave explorer who

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9614Sun, 19 Apr 2009 05:02:52 +0000
Steersman of the worldhttps://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/19862-steersman-of-the-world/ A composite of various relics may clarify a particular detail. It appears that Hadrian was one who carried the 'ship of state' idea to Britain.

There are several examples of a ship rudder. These are with Hadrian on a coin, Fortuna sculpted at Castlecary Scotland and Salus inscribed in Wales (where the Hadrian coin was found).  Fortuna and Salus are inscribed together at Chester. 'Salus was often represented on coins and art, like Fortuna, with a rudder and a globe at her feet, indicating her responsibility for steering the state for the good of the people.'

Hadrian. https://www.flickr.com/photos/museumwales/5950606340/
The coin was struck in AD 119/121and found in Wales. This was the year before he visited Britain .

 

 Salus' right foot is on a globe, holding a rudder upwards in her left hand.  It's also Hadrian's coin and dated 119-123.

https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/C_R-9382

So Salus is evidently a gubernator, steering the state with Fortuna. Then Fortuna on the Fenwick Hoard has the powers of Jupiter and Victory, as a military deity.https://colchester.cimuseums.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Fenwick-Hoard-Teachers-notes.pdf

 p.9.  1 silver armlet (or armillae). 

 

Then finally, Fortuna at Castlecary fort would be steering the military fortunes of state with her rudder.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dandiffendale/26258772660

 

Is this evidence for the 'ship of state' and its emphasis for the military sense, which naturally means the naval ships?

 

 

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19862Tue, 21 Mar 2023 07:59:28 +0000
Chesters Hill Fort (nr North Berwick, Scotland)https://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/19401-chesters-hill-fort-nr-north-berwick-scotland/
After collecting "Vandalf" (our grey campervan) from the garage after a wee upgrade, I decided to sneak in a wee bit of research reading... and a cheeky visit to Chesters Hill Fort, near North Berwick!
What a place... and bloody freezing too! 😄🥶
The site was probably a Votadini tribal stronghold during the era of #Roman occupation. It is a typical iron age hill fort or 'oppidum' - consisting of several maze-like rings of ditches and troughs, each successively higher, surrounding and protecting a high plateau where the village would have stood.
The name "Chesters" derives from the Latin term "Castrum", meaning fortification.

P.S. I wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the Archaeology forum - mods feel free to move it if it doesn't fit here :)

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19401Wed, 09 Feb 2022 13:35:21 +0000
Roman remains found in Gloucester’s King’s Squarehttps://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/18923-roman-remains-found-in-gloucester%E2%80%99s-king%E2%80%99s-square/ Another interesting find in England:

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Roman remains have been found underneath Gloucester's King's Square as the re-development of the city centre location continues.

Archaeological discoveries have been made during work on the £5million project to revamp the square.

Among the discoveries are large roman walls two metres below the surface in corner of King's Square near to Subway and Chambers.

The wall in this area is thought by Gloucester's city archaeologist to be a corner tower of the Roman city.

Where is Gloucester on map of England

 

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/roman-remains-found-under-subway-5225168#comments-section

 

Summary: It is good to know that people are aware of the existence to Roman remains and appreciate the need to investigate them further. Excellent video on the most recent find:

 

 

 

 

guy also known as gaius

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18923Thu, 25 Mar 2021 17:36:38 +0000
Hair styles Suggested by Unearthed Figurinehttps://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/18881-hair-styles-suggested-by-unearthed-figurine/  

Here's an interesting figurine recently excavated in the East of England, suggesting moustaches and long hair were popular in 1st century Britain:

 

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A tiny statue's moustache and haircut could be evidence of popular fashion trends from the 1st Century, an archaeologist has said.

The 5cm (2in) figure of a Celtic deity was discovered at the National Trust's Wimpole Estate in Cambridgeshire.

The Celtic figure, rear view.

 

Celtic figurine

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-56116411

 

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/feb/19/when-mullets-rocked-figurine-suggests-ancient-britons-favoured-hairstyle

 

Summary: I am not surprised that the first century ancient Brits may have had moustaches and long hair, also. The famous Dying Gaul sculpture in Rome also shows these features, That sculpture is thought to be an ancient Roman copy of a Hellenistic bronze (223-231 BCE) from Pergamon:  

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The white marble statue, which may originally have been painted, depicts a wounded, slumped Gaulish or Galatian Celt, shown with remarkable realism and pathos, particularly as regards the face. A bleeding sword puncture is visible in his lower right chest. The warrior is represented with characteristic Celtic hairstyle and moustache with a Celtic torc around his neck. He sits on his shield while his sword, belt and curved trumpet lie beside him. The sword hilt bears a lion's head. 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_Gaul

 

guy also known as gaius

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18881Fri, 19 Feb 2021 17:37:06 +0000
History of Roman Britain (55 BC - 410 AD)https://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/18820-history-of-roman-britain-55-bc-410-ad/ This is a nice video review of Roman Britain. This 90 minute video is exceptional at about 60 min when it reviews the slow collapse of the Empire beginning with Caracalla (211 AD).

 

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18820Sat, 28 Nov 2020 20:26:18 +0000
Anglo-Saxons descendants of Israelhttps://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/18596-anglo-saxons-descendants-of-israel/ Anglo-Saxons descendants of Israel.
    Anglo-Saxons – lineal descendants of one of the people which followed Moses. Genetics discovered the Chechens and the Germans common Northern German mitochondrial DNA, that is maternal (see Yavus Akhmadovs statement in a round table of “RIA News” in Moscow).
    Patrilineal the Chechens and the Ingush have Y DNA of haplogroup J2a, which in major of Cohens, descendant of Aaron, brother of Moses. The grandfather and his grandson from daughter will not have the same Y or Mt DNA, because these lines either only patrilineal or only matrilineal. Y DNA or Mitochondrial DNA are not betrays Anglo-Saxons as descendants of Israel, but they are their lineal descendants, as in the example of grandfather and his grandchildren by his daughter.
    Middle Eastern Cohens Y DNA J2a of Gargareans-Chechen in the Caucasus moved to Northern German Mt DNA of Amazons. The historians well know that the Amazons were in alliance with Gargareans in Caucasus and in the three years bring back sons to their fathers. (as it written by Strabon)
    Later Amazons have turned to patriarchy and the part of them with Sarmatians moved to Europe.
    In the eddas of Vikings (descendants of Amazons!) is not random they pointing to Caucasus as their homeland.
    Dr. A. Vagapov found over 5 thousand Chechen words in Old English language. Marcus Aurelius also resettled the Sarmatians - emigrants from Caucasus, to the Britain. Thousands of Chechen words in contemporary Europeans languages are not coincidental. Such known names as Lars, Akka, Utt, Buri, Hattuary, Angus, Van, Sassannach and others links Southwest Asia and Western Europe since ancient times of first civilizations.             Albert Machigov.
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18596Wed, 03 Jan 2018 11:32:53 +0000
The wall before Hardian's Wall, the wall across englandhttps://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/18472-the-wall-before-hardians-wall-the-wall-across-england/What was the name of the wall before Hadrian's Wall?

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18472Fri, 02 Dec 2016 19:09:12 +0000
Did headhunters stalk Roman Britain?https://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/18185-did-headhunters-stalk-roman-britain/Did headhunters stalk Roman Britain? Excavations for London's Crossrail project have unearthed some disturbing clues.  Of all the discoveries an archaeologist could make, this has to be one of the more gruesome. Twenty feet beneath Liverpool Street, in the heart of the City of London, excavators recently uncovered a human skeleton deprived of its head. The skull had been placed between the victim's legs. 

 

The mysterious remains, which date from the Roman period, were dug up as part of the Crossrail project, a £15 billion scheme to establish a 26-mile rail network across the capital. And they are just one of several grim artefacts that are challenging long-held beliefs about Roman Britain, shedding light on ancient Celtic practices and terrifying Roman customs.

 

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18185Thu, 04 Jun 2015 08:49:11 +0000
African encounters in Roman Britainhttps://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/17862-african-encounters-in-roman-britain/...fascinating article...

 

Perhaps the most remarkable tale to survive is an episode in the Historia Augusta (Life of Severus 22) concerning the inspection of the Wall by the emperor Septimius Severus. The emperor, who was himself born in Libya, was confronted by a black soldier, part of the Wall garrison and a noted practical joker. According to the account the notoriously superstitious emperor saw in the soldier’s black skin and his brandishing of a wreath of Cyprus branches, an omen of death. And his mood was not further improved when the soldier shouted the macabre double entendre iam deus esto victor (now victor/conqueror, become a god). For of course properly speaking a Roman emperor should first die before being divinized.
 
The late Nigerian classicist, Lloyd Thompson, made a powerful point about this intriguing passage in his seminal work Romans and Blacks, ‘the whole anecdote attributes to this man a disposition to make fun of the superstitious beliefs about black strangers’. In fact we might go further, and note just how much cultural knowledge and confidence this frontier soldier needed to play the joke – he needed to be aware of Roman funerary practices, superstitions, and the indeed the practice of emperor worship itself....
 
full article at the OUP Blog
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17862Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:32:23 +0000
Roman name for British and Cornish people?https://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/17708-roman-name-for-british-and-cornish-people/Hi all,

 

Forgive me if this topic is in the wrong forum!

 

I'm trying to find out what the Romans would have called people from Britain and people from Cornwall?

 

I found an interesting topic on this forum which had some useful information, if anyone could possibly elaborate? http://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/8636-the-name-britain/

 

Regards

 

Frank

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17708Tue, 01 Jul 2014 08:30:56 +0000
The 7 Lost Cities of Roman Britain?https://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/17415-the-7-lost-cities-of-roman-britain/Bede says that there were formerly 28 cities in Britain, and also mentions forts. Since we only know of 21 Roman Towns (Bede's Cities) it seems like there's still 7 to be found, so I wonder where they were?

 

Bede states that Caerleon (City of the Legions) was one such city (or Roman Town), and I guess with the recent archaeological discoveries then that is close to being confirmed?

 

Personally, I suspect Corbridge, Carlisle or perhaps somewhere close by like Penrith.

 

Some of the "small towns" may be "potential cities" such as Rochester. 

 

Recently a theatre was discovered at Faversham (Durolevum), so a Forum-Basilica may yet to come!

 

Brough? Any other candidates? Possibly somewhere round Lewis perhaps?

 

Another interesting thing reading Bede is that St Martin's Church in Canterbury was most definitely a Roman Church, hence the remains there may actually be a retaining wall of the Roman nave.

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17415Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:35:48 +0000
The British History Podcasthttps://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/17328-the-british-history-podcast/Here's one of the most engaging history podcasts on the Internet, thebritishhistorypodcast.com. The lastest episode takes us into the Saxon era in Britain. You can choose to listen to any previous podcasts from the website. These include many on the Roman and subRoman eras as well as those with fascinating interviews with archaeologists working on the Staffordshire Hoard.

 

http://thebritishhistorypodcast.com/?paged=10

 

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17328Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:35:01 +0000
www.proto-english.orghttps://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/17259-wwwproto-englishorg/What do you guys think of the alternative history provided by this website? Has it been discussed before? Shame they don't have a forum or quote sources, which doesn't help when promoting something so controversial. However, I myself find their arguments very plausible. I've read books on Saxon history, but they never give their reasons why they believe the Saxons brought Old English with them. They do state that place-name experts are separate to historians and archaeologists, etc. Place-name experts never seem to be in agreement anyway. Any views?

http://www.proto-english.org

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17259Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:16:50 +0000
Sub-Roman and early Saxon townshttps://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/17064-sub-roman-and-early-saxon-towns/Could York, Lincoln, Exeter, Gloucester and/or Winchester have evolved from Roman towns to Medieval burghs throughout Sub-Roman and Saxon times without any period of abandonment, always maintaining a relatively high population compared to the rest of the country? What do we know about the sub-Roman period of these towns and of their Saxon history?

 

http://www.britainex...day-england.htm

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17064Tue, 05 Feb 2013 22:02:51 +0000
Activities of Auxilliarys in Britainhttps://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/15737-activities-of-auxilliarys-in-britain/need to know, if any records of Auxilliaries being posted to Hadrian's Wall, survive?

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15737Sun, 26 Feb 2012 03:51:54 +0000
Fourth Cohort of the Gauls in Britainhttps://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/15461-fourth-cohort-of-the-gauls-in-britain/Can anyone point me to reliable sources of info, re the Fourth Cohort and it's role and activities in Britain and do any records by chance, survive, containing the names of any of it's members?

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15461Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:49:57 +0000
After Mons Graupiushttps://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/14931-after-mons-graupius/My first actual post (other than the intro) and I'm committing heresy......

 

Here's a challenge for all you Romanophiles: explain the atypical behaviour of the Romans after winning Mons Graupius (and if you can prove this battle actually took place you get 5 points).

 

To refresh memories, according to Tacitus, the Romans fought and defeated a Caledonian army of 30,000, killing 10,000 of them and driving the rest from the field (which has never been identified). They managed this feat with the loss of no more than 360 auxiliaries and one single solitary Roman citizen, an Aulus Atticus (while the Legions present sat back and twiddled their thumbs).

 

This is where the story begins to fall apart. The normal procedure of a Roman army after such a victory was to settle in and consolidate, bribe a few of the local bigwigs, kill some of the others, erect a commemoration stone or two, and build a base for further operations.

 

In this case, they didn't. Yet, according to Tacitus, all

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14931Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:21:35 +0000
Drill Hall!?https://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/14586-drill-hall/The Birdoswald guidebook states that one building within the fort (with visible remains) was a Drill Hall. Is there any other examples of this building type from Romano-British forts or could they be mistaken in their identification?

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14586Mon, 01 Aug 2011 09:28:20 +0000