Melvadius 4 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 OK it may not win awards for being 100% accurate (especially the gladiatorial action which I believe is probably done infinitely better by our own Medusa) but there is quite a fun video report on the BBC from their reporter Rajan Datar who reports on some reneactments during his visit to the Roman city of Jerash. Jordan has evidence of settlements going back to 7000 BC and Stone Age man, but perhaps the most famous settlement is that of the Roman Empire. In those days men were men and horses were horses and the Jenson Button's and Lewis Hamilton's of the age bestrode horse-drawn chariots. Rajan Datar unleashed his inner gladiator in Jerash, north of Jordan's capital Amman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crispina 18 Report post Posted April 11, 2011 I really enjoyed that. Thanks for posting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caldrail 152 Report post Posted April 12, 2011 I suppose there's an atmospheric hint of what it would look like, but as suggested above, the chariots are not replicas of racing vehicles used in the Roman circus. Although I was pleased to see the relatively lightweight wheels, the width of the axle looks excessive. Driving practicality aside, these chariots were stripped out vehicles and the extra weight of a wider axle is significant. Remember that the chariots portrayed are essentially two-man vehicles, not single stand racers. I notice they were constructed with a solid floor. Not the case in historical vehicles, which had interwoven leather strips or planks to stand on, again to save weight. Further, the front shield on the re-enactors chariots is for warfare, being an all-round protective screen facing forward. The racing chariot had a much slimmer screen for one person that didn't wrap around the sides. Strictly speaking, a chariot as shown by the BBC might have only been used for training, not the actual race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maladict 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2011 If you're looking for authentic racing at Jerash: http://www.ikbis.com/shots/273835 (starting at 1.00) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caldrail 152 Report post Posted April 12, 2011 Slightly more horses than the Romans used I'm afraid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Medusa 0 Report post Posted April 12, 2011 I was impressed that they at leased cared to do Roman reenactment in a country like Jordan. The legionaries looked halfway decent. Also I noticed with pleasure, like caldrail said, the light chariots. I don't know enough about Roman racing chariots to judge how authentic they were or not. Anyhow the gladiators were the worst. Nothing authentic at all. This is really a pity because they did a good job on the other things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caldrail 152 Report post Posted April 13, 2011 They were gladiators? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Metella 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2011 Great entertainment - thanks for sharing ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostOfClayton 25 Report post Posted April 15, 2011 Great entertainment - thanks for sharing ! Here, Here. . . . or is it "Hear, hear"? Why have I never wondered about that before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melvadius 4 Report post Posted April 15, 2011 Thank you for the complements folks I found it fun and was glad to share As to Ghost's question: Hansard (the official record of parliamentary discussions in the UK) uses the term 'hear, hear' including in this example from 12 June 2006 where it occurs part way down the page beyond '12 Jun 2006 : Column 97'. Checking on Wikipedia it appears that the phrase originally was 'hear him, hear him' in the 17th century but abbreviated to 'hear, hear' by the 18th. In the context of Parliamentary discussions where applause is generally not allowed this does seem highly likely to be the correct derivation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostOfClayton 25 Report post Posted April 15, 2011 As to Ghost's question: Hansard (the official record of parliamentary discussions in the UK) uses the term 'hear, hear' including in this example from 12 June 2006 where it occurs part way down the page beyond '12 Jun 2006 : Column 97'. Checking on Wikipedia it appears that the phrase originally was 'hear him, hear him' in the 17th century but abbreviated to 'hear, hear' by the 18th. In the context of Parliamentary discussions where applause is generally not allowed this does seem highly likely to be the correct derivation. Interesting stuff, Melvadius. Every day's a school day! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Metella 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2011 Hear! Hear ! (snicker) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites