(Actually there are other positions needed to be filled and also at different bases, but I'm just talking about how it relates to selfish Captain D) :)))
This is mainly due to retirements i.e no expansion...yet!
I teach another 20 new hires on the 29th. There's also a class in September and October.
Here's one forecast on retirements in the next several years. It basically means 10 to 12 pilots will be flying their last flight every month. Note the peak in 2015. This is one list of many so I am unsure of it's accuracy. I am seniority #1171 and I hit the road in 2021. Translation....get your pilot license! Again, this is just retirements. Wait until the B787 shows up on the ramp. :))
2007 120
2008 102
2009 116
2010 119
2011 130
2012 139
2013 131
2014 150
2015 168
2016 142
2017 125
2018 110
2019 132
2020 111
2021 117
2022 139
2023 120
2024 138
2025 127
2026 129
2027 108
2028 107
2029 76
2030 82
2031 53
Out of the blue I received this email two days ago recruiting pilots in China. Rumour has it, this gentleman was walking the airport asking pilots to come fly in China. I asked if I could post his email and he was more than willing. Too bad my company is not offering leaves- presently. I'd like to take up the challenge for a couple of years. So, for you new aspiring pilots, just don't think legacy carriers, look at the world as your oyster. I mentored one pilot with Jazz and AC is not responding. What's he doing about it? He has an interview with United Arab Emirates, another company looking for pilots....BIG TIME.
Dear Captain Doug Morris
I got your contact from your book. - From the Flight Deck, I am impressed that you are an Air Canada Airbus 320 captain and a certified meteorologist. You write a monthly aviation column for enRoute, Air Canada's in-flight magazine, as well as for newspapers and other aviation and weather publications.
Pioneer Aviation Services is a professional pilot recruiter for the Airlines in China. I am from Toronto office of Pioneer Aviation Services.
We are recruiting A320 Captains for Juneyao Airlines. Hopefully, we can get 30-50 Captains by the end of this year. Juneyao Airlines is planning to hire 100 Captains from overseas. Now Juneyao Airlines has 24 A320 aircraft, however, there are only 210 pilots in total 210 including Captains and FOs. They do have new aircrafts orders from the portion of the 150 aircraft transaction agreed between Airbus and China Aviation Supplies Import and Export Corporation ("CASC") in 2006.
I attached the package of Captains job from Juneyao Airlines. Please visit our website for more information about us. www.pioneeraviationservices.com
Could you please advise whether you are interested in this opportunity or please forward it to your friends who might be interested in it? I am looking forward to receiving your response.
Thanks
Bin Du | Pioneer Aviation Services
China Juneyao Airlines Pilot Recruitment Notice
Presented by Pioneer Aviation Services (Toronto) 2011-Aug-12
1.Be a national whose home country shall maintain diplomatic relation with the People’s Republic of China;
2. Be a valid license holder as pilot in air transportation. Has a valid class I medical certificate;
2. Be a valid license holder as pilot in air transportation. Has a valid class I medical certificate;
3. Be a national of a contracting party to ICAO
4 Age between 30 and 60 years old
4 Age between 30 and 60 years old
5. 3,000 hours and above in flying hours and 600 hours and above in PIC hours as captain of large aircraft
6. English proficiency level ICAO IV and above
7 Qualified for CAT I landing standard
6. English proficiency level ICAO IV and above
7 Qualified for CAT I landing standard
8 No flight accident record
9 No criminal record
10 Has a“no flight accident”certificate issued by the former employer
11 Experience-losing period of type rating is no more than 12 calendar months
12 Can accept other large aircraft captains besides A320 series.
9 No criminal record
10 Has a“no flight accident”certificate issued by the former employer
11 Experience-losing period of type rating is no more than 12 calendar months
12 Can accept other large aircraft captains besides A320 series.
Base: Shanghai China
1 before hired as a captain (1)For foreign pilot who has yet to hold a Chinese flight license: 6,000USD/month after passing background check by CAAC 8,000USD/month after commencing flight assignment (75 hours per month)
Salary (after tax):
(2)For foreign pilot who holds Chinese flight license when accepted by Juneyao: 8,000USD/month after transfer of flight license 10,000USD/month after commencing flight assignment.( 75 hours per month) 2. After officially hired as captain: 17000USD/month, ( 75 hours per month) If fly less than 75 hours, salary calculated according to actual flight hours times 226USD/hour.
If fly more than 75 hours, the exceeding hours will be rewarded as 226USD/hour. If flight hours exceed 900 hours per contract year, the exceeding hours will be rewarded as 340USD/hour.
Contract Period:
Contract Period:
3 year for A320 series captains 4 years for other large aircraft captains.
2 round international tickets and 2 round domestic tickets per contract year..
Benefit:
7 days in the hotel when first settling in Shanghai
Accommodation:
40 days. Can be divided into several times
22 comments:
Captain Doug.....you know what...that is the most beautiful shit I have seen ..that's New Orleans BABY....
just so lovely.......and I will assume it was a good deal......even though you paid...my friend..
misstwa
they are so BEAUTIFULL....
Getjets. I knew you would like it!
They have some great shots and there were good times had by all.
I should have tolerated the heat and joined them but my sister-in-law went. Oops, I'll stop there. :)))
And yes, my daughters are beautiful. Not sure what side they took after.
Doesn't matter.
My blog is starting to look like a travel guide. LOL
Captain Doug, I read about this as well, I believe from Craig R's article he posted within one of his comments of recent....
Something doesn't seem right about the practices of these "so called" recruiting companies!!!! Promise the world.........well, where are all the happy pilots flying for China, I would like to hear from them......
at this early glance, I could be wrong.....though
Has a“no flight accident”certificate issued by the former employer
Will you get this certificate if your landing gear fails to come down and you make a belly landing succesfully?
Bas.
Captain....those kids of yours got the Best of Both worlds I am sure!!!!!!!! Smiling children don't lie!!!!!!!:)))))))))
So glad everyone had such a good time.....!!!!
Did you see this about an incident involving a Juneyao flight...
http://avherald.com/h?article=441d508b&opt=0
What equipment will you likely move up to next? Does AC and/or Canadian Gov't. have a mandatory retirement age of 60?
Thanks for sharing the travel stuff too!
Tim G in MN
@Tim G in MN....read about the incident....Qatar B773 and a Juneyao A320......
seems may be "Atittude" over "Altitude".....with some
Captain #1171....will the B767 be your next weapon of choice??? ha ha
^J^
I guy I know just got checked out in the B777 -- moved up from the 767. Skipped right over the A330.... easy transition I would think.
Captain Doug,
Very interesting and informative post! Great to read about all the retirement statistics...interesting when you really think about how many people are going to be retiring in the next few years. The drop off near the end of that list is something to think about for sure....
Great point you brought up about the opportunities outside of AC. There's definitely lots to think about out there! The Emirates one you mentioned would be absolutely fantastic if you wanted to live in Dubai. I'd love to do that one day....just gotta put in a lot of time...build up them hours :)
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Getjets.
You speak volumes of truth. Basically they (recruiters) are using you for your license. One screw up and you are punted out of the country or thrown in a room with bars as the decor. Most countries never heard of a union and when I went for such an interview six years ago you had to disguise the word as "onion."
Having said that, if someone is open minded and wants to get away from living from pay cheque to pay cheque, avoiding the tax man for awhile, or to skip alimony payments then these places can be very rewarding.
Tim G in MN
I read your link. Interesting.
We did have a mandatory retirement age at 60 and it was challenged. Two gentleman regained their seniority. But into the courts again and now it's been deemed...age 60 stays....for now.
The challenge will happen again but I always joked this issue won't be resolved until I retire...another ten years.
Because of it...there will be lots of pilots walking out the door.
My next airplane will be the B767. But stay tuned on that front, I new contract may change that.
Captain Doug
Whywhyzed. You sure do know lots of people in high places. LOL
Yes, the transition would be sightly easier. After all both airplanes having that funny thing between the pilot's legs...called a "control column"... I think. :)
I know, it's my Airbus retort.
But remember, the technology on the B767 is kind of old whereas the 777 is hip. :)
Bas.
Good point. It depends if the company wants to put you up on the pedestal as a hero or rake you over the coals and blame it on pilot error. Look at BA on short final with the B777. That poor captain did a roller coaster ride in that department.
I better bite my tongue.
Captain D
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There sure is lots of grey hair in the flight planning room and that includes me!
Rumour has it, YVR is really top heavy.
So yes, start building them hours. :)
Do you need an ATPL to get hired with air Canada?? I hope to be knocking on there doors in about 4 years only I probably won't get hired until 7 or 8 :P
Brett. I was under the impression you DID need an ATPL but I've now heard of several who slipped under the radar.
Maybe they are enforcing it again, because you definitely require it when you go captain.
We taxied by the Victoria Flying Club around 6:00 p.m last night and I saw you guys were having a huge BBQ.
I opened my window and waved but no one waved back. You guys better up your scan. LOL
Actually I did get a wave from a guy about your age.
My F/O wanted to go and crash the party.
I'm now off back to Toronto and then to Montreal and back where they are forecasting 45 knot winds for my arrival.
Haha ya unfortunately I didn't go to the BBQ last night I was stuck at work pouring coffee and getting doughnuts for customers :P
So what other things are required to get hired other than the flying stuff? Do I need to know French, does it help? Do I need any degrees or anything?
Captain Doug:
Given the, er, "interesting" contractual negotiations at all levels in "the Company" of late, how long do you think it will take for a move to the 767's for you? And will you go right or left-seat first? I.E. - is a "Captain" always a "Captain"? As always, cheers from here!!
Hey Captain Doug! Really thanks for sharing this sheet. I am grateful to get this.
Aircraft Ground Support Equipment (now that's a mouthful lol)
Your welcome. i assume the sheet you are referring to are the retirement forecast. :)))
Captain Doug
Brett. No, you don't need French, but another language is a definite "brownie point."
You either need a degree or a diploma. The degree can be in "basket weaving" as long as it is a degree.
The diploma should be an aviation diploma.
Gone to welcome the new hire class.
Captain Doug
(Looks like I posted this in the wrong post. Oops)
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